the Week of Proper 11 / Ordinary 16
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THE MESSAGE
Job 30:8
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Foolish men, without even a name.They were forced to leave the land.
They are children of fools, yes, children of base men. They were flogged out of the land.
They were children of fools, yea, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.
A senseless, a nameless brood, they have been whipped out of the land.
They are worthless people without names and were forced to leave the land.
Sons of senseless and nameless people, they were driven out of the land with whips.
"They are the sons of [worthless and nameless] fools, They have been driven out of the land.
"Worthless fellows, even those without a name, They were cast out from the land.
They are children of fools, yes, children of base men. They were flogged out of the land.
They were the children of fooles and the children of villaines, which were more vile then the earth.
Wicked fools, even those without a name,They were scourged from the land.
A senseless and nameless brood, they were driven off the land.
And like senseless donkeys they are chased away.
irresponsible nobodies driven from the land.
Sons of fools, and sons of nameless sires, they are driven out of the land.
They are a bunch of worthless people without names, who were forced to leave their country.
The children of fools shall be overthrown together with the children of the wicked; they shall be brought lower than the earth.
A worthless bunch of nameless nobodies! They were driven out of the land.
A senseless crowd, yes, a disreputable brood, they were cast out from the land.
sons of fools; yea, sons without a name; they have been whipped out of the land.
They were the children of fooles & vylanes, which are deed awaye fro the worlde.
They are children of fools, yea, children of base men; They were scourged out of the land.
They are sons of shame, and of men without a name, who have been forced out of the land.
They are children of churls, yea, children of ignoble men; they were scourged out of the land.
They were children of fooles, yea children of base men: they were viler then the earth.
They were the children of fooles and vyllaynes, which are more vile then the earth.
They are sons of fools and vile men, whose name and glory are quenched from off the earth.
They are children of fools, yea, children of base men; they were scourged out of the land.
The sones of foolis and of vnnoble men, and outirli apperynge not in erthe.
[They are] sons of fools, yes, sons of base men; They were scourged out of the land.
[They were] children of fools, yes, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.
They were sons of fools, Yes, sons of vile men; They were scourged from the land.
They are nameless fools, outcasts from society.
They are fools and they have no name. They have been driven out of the land.
A senseless, disreputable brood, they have been whipped out of the land.
Sons of the base, yea sons of the nameless, they were scourged out of the land.
The children of foolish and base men, and not appearing at all upon the earth.
A senseless, a disreputable brood, they have been whipped out of the land.
Sons of folly -- even sons without name, They have been smitten from the land.
"Fools, even those without a name, They were scourged from the land.
Contextual Overview
Bible Verse Review
from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge
children: 2 Kings 8:18, 2 Kings 8:27, 2 Chronicles 22:3, Psalms 49:10-13, Jeremiah 7:18, Mark 6:24
fools: Proverbs 1:7, Proverbs 1:22, Proverbs 16:22
base men: Heb. men of no name
viler: Job 40:4, Psalms 15:4, Isaiah 32:6
Reciprocal: Judges 9:4 - vain 1 Samuel 25:21 - Surely 2 Samuel 6:20 - vain fellows 2 Kings 2:23 - little children 2 Chronicles 13:7 - vain men Psalms 12:8 - men Psalms 69:12 - I was Nahum 3:6 - make Matthew 27:30 - General Mark 15:19 - they smote
Cross-References
After Rachel had had Joseph, Jacob spoke to Laban, "Let me go back home. Give me my wives and children for whom I've served you. You know how hard I've worked for you."
God spoke to Jacob: "Go back to Bethel. Stay there and build an altar to the God who revealed himself to you when you were running for your life from your brother Esau." Jacob told his family and all those who lived with him, "Throw out all the alien gods which you have, take a good bath and put on clean clothes, we're going to Bethel. I'm going to build an altar there to the God who answered me when I was in trouble and has stuck with me everywhere I've gone since." They turned over to Jacob all the alien gods they'd been holding on to, along with their lucky-charm earrings. Jacob buried them under the oak tree in Shechem. Then they set out. A paralyzing fear descended on all the surrounding villages so that they were unable to pursue the sons of Jacob. Jacob and his company arrived at Luz, that is, Bethel, in the land of Canaan. He built an altar there and named it El-Bethel (God-of-Bethel) because that's where God revealed himself to him when he was running from his brother. And that's when Rebekah's nurse, Deborah, died. She was buried just below Bethel under the oak tree. It was named Allon-Bacuth (Weeping-Oak). God revealed himself once again to Jacob, after he had come back from Paddan Aram and blessed him: "Your name is Jacob (Heel); but that's your name no longer. From now on your name is Israel (God-Wrestler)." God continued, I am The Strong God. Have children! Flourish! A nation—a whole company of nations!— will come from you. Kings will come from your loins; the land I gave Abraham and Isaac I now give to you, and pass it on to your descendants. And then God was gone, ascended from the place where he had spoken with him. Jacob set up a stone pillar on the spot where God had spoken with him. He poured a drink offering on it and anointed it with oil. Jacob dedicated the place where God had spoken with him, Bethel (God's-House). They left Bethel. They were still quite a ways from Ephrath when Rachel went into labor—hard, hard labor. When her labor pains were at their worst, the midwife said to her, "Don't be afraid—you have another boy." With her last breath, for she was now dying, she named him Ben-oni (Son-of-My-Pain), but his father named him Ben-jamin (Son-of-Good-Fortune). Rachel died and was buried on the road to Ephrath, that is, Bethlehem. Jacob set up a pillar to mark her grave. It is still there today, "Rachel's Grave Stone." Israel kept on his way and set up camp at Migdal Eder. While Israel was living in that region, Reuben went and slept with his father's concubine, Bilhah. And Israel heard of what he did. There were twelve sons of Jacob. The sons by Leah: Reuben, Jacob's firstborn Simeon Levi Judah Issachar Zebulun. The sons by Rachel: Joseph Benjamin. The sons by Bilhah, Rachel's maid: Dan Naphtali. The sons by Zilpah, Leah's maid: Gad Asher. These were Jacob's sons, born to him in Paddan Aram. Finally, Jacob made it back home to his father Isaac at Mamre in Kiriath Arba, present-day Hebron, where Abraham and Isaac had lived. Isaac was now 180 years old. Isaac breathed his last and died—an old man full of years. He was buried with his family by his sons Esau and Jacob.
Naphtali's sons: Jahziel, Guni, Jezer, and Shillem.
Naphtali is a deer running free that gives birth to lovely fawns. Joseph is a wild donkey, a wild donkey by a spring, spirited donkeys on a hill. The archers with malice attacked, shooting their hate-tipped arrows; But he held steady under fire, his bow firm, his arms limber, With the backing of the Champion of Jacob, the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel. The God of your father—may he help you! And may The Strong God—may he give you his blessings, Blessings tumbling out of the skies, blessings bursting up from the Earth— blessings of breasts and womb. May the blessings of your father exceed the blessings of the ancient mountains, surpass the delights of the eternal hills; May they rest on the head of Joseph, on the brow of the one consecrated among his brothers.
Naphtali: "Naphtali brims with blessings, spills over with God 's blessings As he takes possession of the sea and southland."
Gill's Notes on the Bible
[They were] children of fools,.... Their parents were fools, or they themselves were such; foolish children, or foolish men, were they that derided Job; and their derision of him was a proof of it: the meaning is not that they were idiots, or quite destitute of reason and natural knowledge, but that they were men of slender capacities; they were "Nabal like", which is the word here used of them; and, indeed, it may easily be concluded, they could not have much knowledge of men and things, from their pedigree, education, and manner of living before described; though rather this may signify their being wicked men, or children of such, which is the sense of the word "fool" frequently in the Psalms of David, and in the Proverbs of Solomon; and men may be fools in this sense, as having no understanding of divine and spiritual things, who yet have wit enough to do evil, though to do good they have no knowledge:
yea, children of base men, or "men without a name" s; a kind without fame, Mr. Broughton renders it; an infamous generation of men, famous for nothing; had no name for blood, birth, and breeding; for families, for power and authority among men, having no title of honour or of office; nor for wealth, wisdom, nor strength, for which some have a name; but these men had no name but an ill one, for their folly and wickedness; had no good name, were of no credit and reputation with men; and perhaps, strictly and literally speaking, were without a name, being a spurious and bastardly breed; or living solitary in woods and deserts, in cliffs and caves; they belonged not to any tribe or nation, and so bore no name:
they are viler than the earth; on which they trod, and who are unworthy to tread upon it; and out of which their vile bodies were made, and yet were viler than that which is the basest of the elements, being most distant from heaven, the throne of God t; they were not so valuable as some parts of the earth, the gold and silver, but were as vile as the dross of the earth, and viler than that; they were crushed and bruised, and "broken" more than the earth, as the word u signifies; they were as small and as contemptible as the dust of the earth and the mire of the streets, and more so; or than the men of the earth, as Aben Ezra observes, than the meanest and worst, and vilest of men: Mr. Broughton renders it, "banished from the earth"; smitten, stricken, and driven out of the land where they had dwelt, Job 30:5; whipped out of it, as some translate the word w, as vagabonds; as a lazy, idle, pilfering set of people, not fit to be in human society; and by such base, mean, lowly people, were Christ and his apostles ill treated; see Matthew 23:33.
s בלי שם "absque nomine", Pagninus, Montanus, Vatablus; so Beza, Mercerus, Piscator, Drusius, Michaelis, Cocceius. t See Weemse's Observat. Natural. c 3. u נכאו "contriti", Montanus, Bolducius; so the Targum. w "Flagellati", Schultens.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible
They were children of fools - The word rendered “fools” נבל nâbâl, means,
(1) stupid, foolish; and
(2) abandoned, impious; compare 1 Samuel 25:3, 1 Samuel 25:25.
Here it means the worthless, the refuse of society, the abandoned. They had no respectable parentage. Umbreit, “A brood of infamy.” Coverdale, “Children of fools and villains.”
Children of base men - Margin, as in Hebrew, “men of no name.” They were men of no reputation; whose ancestors had in no way been distinguished; possibly meaning, also, that they herded together as beasts without even a name.
They were viler than the earth - Gesenius renders this, “They are frightened out of the land.” The Hebrew word (כאה) means “to chide, to upbraid,” and then in the niphal “to be chidden away,” or “to be driven off.” The sense is, as an impious and low-born race they were driven out of the land.
Clarke's Notes on the Bible
Verse Job 30:8. Children of fools — Children of nabal; children without a name; persons of no consideration, and descendants of such.
Viler than the earth. — Rather, driven out of the land; persons not fit for civil society.
