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Bahasa Indonesia Sehari-hari

Ayub 12:2

"Memang, kamulah orang-orang itu, dan bersama-sama kamu hikmat akan mati.

Bible Study Resources

Concordances:

- Nave's Topical Bible - Irony;   Pride;   Sarcasm;   Self-Righteousness;   Wisdom;   Thompson Chain Reference - Irony;  

Dictionaries:

- Charles Buck Theological Dictionary - Greatness of God;   Hypocrisy;   Holman Bible Dictionary - Irony;   Job, the Book of;  

Encyclopedias:

- International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Doubt;  

Parallel Translations

Alkitab Terjemahan Baru
"Memang, kamulah orang-orang itu, dan bersama-sama kamu hikmat akan mati.
Alkitab Terjemahan Lama
Bahwasanya kamulah orang laki-laki, dan serta dengan kamu hikmatpun akan mati!

Contextual Overview

1 So Iob aunswered, & saide: 2 Then no doubt ye are the men alone, and wysdome shall perishe with you. 3 But I haue vnderstanding aswell as ye, and am not inferior to you: Yea who knoweth not these thinges? 4 I am as one mocked of his neighbour, who calleth vpon God, & he heareth him: The iust & the vpright is laughed to scorne. 5 Being as alight despised in the heartes of the riche, and as one redy to fall.

Bible Verse Review
  from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge

ye are the people: Job 6:24, Job 6:25, Job 8:8-10, Job 11:2, Job 11:6, Job 11:12, Job 15:2, Job 17:4, Job 20:3, Job 32:7-13, Proverbs 28:11, Isaiah 5:21, 1 Corinthians 4:10, 1 Corinthians 6:5

Reciprocal: Exodus 4:10 - eloquent Job 5:27 - we have searched Job 6:13 - and is wisdom Job 15:8 - thou restrain Job 26:2 - How hast thou Job 32:13 - We 2 Corinthians 10:12 - we dare not

Cross-References

Genesis 12:3
I wyll also blesse them that blesse thee, and curse the that curseth thee: and in thee shall all kinredes of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 12:4
And so Abram departed, euen as the Lorde had spoken vnto hym, and Lot went with him: and Abram was seuentie and fiue yeres old when he departed out of Haran.
Genesis 12:6
Abram passed through the lande, vnto the place of Sichem, vnto the plaine of Moreh. And the Chanaanite [was] then in the lande.
Genesis 12:8
And remouyng thence vnto a mountayne that was eastwarde from Bethel, he pitched his tent, hauyng Bethel on the west syde, & Hai on the east: and there he buyldyng an aulter vnto the Lorde, dyd call vpon the name of the Lorde.
Genesis 12:9
And Abram toke his iourney, goyng and iourneying towarde the south.
Genesis 12:10
[And] the there was a famine in that lande, and therfore went Abram downe into Egypt, that he myght soiourne there, for there was a greeuons famine in the lande.
Genesis 12:14
And so when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians behelde the woman, for she was very fayre.
Genesis 12:16
And he entreated Abram well for her sake: and he had sheepe and oxen, and he asses, menseruauntes, & maydeseruauntes, she asses and camelles.
Genesis 12:17
But the Lorde plagued Pharao and his house with great plagues, because of Sarai Abrams wyfe.
Genesis 12:18
And Pharao callyng Abram, sayde: why hast thou done this vnto me?

Gill's Notes on the Bible

No doubt but ye [are] the people,.... Which is said not seriously, meaning that they were but of the common people, that are generally ignorant, and have but little knowledge, at least of things sublime, especially in matters of religion; wherefore, though they took upon them to be his teachers and dictators to him, and censors of him, they were not above the rank, but in the class of people of low and mean understandings; see John 7:49; this sense indeed agrees with what is after said, "who knoweth not such things as these?" but since Job compares himself with them, and asserts he is not inferior to them, it supposes them to have a degree of knowledge and understanding of things somewhat above the common people; wherefore these words are to be taken ironically, exposing their vanity and self-conceit: "ye are the people"; the only, and all the people in the world of importance and consequence for good sense and wisdom; the only wise and knowing folk, the men of reason and understanding; all the rest are but fools and asses, or like the wild ass's colt, as Zophar had said, and which Job took as pointing to him; so the word in the Arabic language c signifies the more excellent and better sort of people; or, ye are the only people of God, his covenant people, his servants; that are made acquainted with the secrets of wisdom, as none else are:

and wisdom shall die with you; you have all the wisdom of the world, and when you die it will be all gone; there will be none left in the world: thus he represents them as monopolizers and engrossers of wisdom and knowledge, full of it in their conceit, allowing none to have any share with them: and by all this he not only upbraids them with their vanity and self-conceit, but puts them in mind, that, as wise as they were, they must die; and that, though their wisdom with respect to them, or any use they could make of it in the grave, where there is none, would die too; or that their wisdom was but the wisdom of the world, which comes to nought; yet there would be wisdom still in the world, and that which is true, which God makes known to men, even the wisdom of God in a mystery, the wisdom hid in himself; and who has the residue of the Spirit and his gifts to instruct men in it, and qualify them to be teachers of others; by which means, though men, even the best of men, die, yet the word of God, the means of true wisdom and knowledge, will always abide.

c Golii Lex. Ar. Col. 1743. Vid. Lud. Capell. in loc.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

No doubt but ye are the people - That is, the only wise people. You have engrossed all the wisdom of the world, and all else are to be regarded as fools. This is evidently the language of severe sarcasm; and it shows a spirit fretted and chafed by their reproaches. Job felt contempt for their reasoning. and meant to intimate that their maxims, on which they placed so much reliance, were common-place, and such as every one was familar with.

And wisdom shall die with you - This is ironical, but it is language such as is common perhaps every where. “The people of the East,” says Roberts, “take great pleasure in irony, and some of their satirical sayings are very cutting. When a sage intimates that he has superior wisdom or when he is disposed to rally another for his meagrc attainments, he says, ‘Yes, yes, you are the man! ‘ ‘Your wisdom is like the sea.’ ‘When you die, whither will wisdom go?’” In a serious sense, language like this is used by the Classical writers to describe the death of eminently great or good men. They speak of wisdom, bravery, piety, or music, as dying with them. Thus, Moschus, Idyll. iii. 12.

Ὅττι βίων τέθνηκεν ὁ βώκολος, ἔττι σὺν αὐτῷ

Καὶ τὸ μέλος τέθνακε, καὶ ὤλετο Δωρίς ἀειδός.

Hotti biōn tethnēken ho bōkolos, esti sun autō

Kai to melos tethnake, kai ōleto Dōris aeidos.

“Bion the swain is dead, and with him song

Has died, and the Doric muse has perished.”

Expressions like these are common. Thus, in the “Pleasures of Hope” it is said:

And Freedom shrieked when Kosciusko fell.

Clarke's Notes on the Bible

Verse Job 12:2. No doubt but ye are the people — Doubtless ye are the wisest men in the world; all wisdom is concentrated in you; and when ye die, there will no more be found on the face of the earth! This is a strong irony.


 
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