Ayub 15:8

Bahasa Indonesia Sehari-hari

Apakah engkau turut mendengarkan di dalam musyawarah Allah dan meraih hikmat bagi dirimu?

Parallel Translations

Alkitab Terjemahan Baru
Apakah engkau turut mendengarkan di dalam musyawarah Allah dan meraih hikmat bagi dirimu?

Alkitab Terjemahan Lama
Engkaukah sudah mendengar rahasia Allah dan sudah menarik segala hikmat kepada dirimu.

Contextual Overview

¹ Then aunswered Eliphaz the Themanite, and saide: ² Shall a wyse mans aunswere be as the winde, and fill a mans belly as it were with the winde of the east? ³ Shall he reproue with a worde that is nothing worth, & speake the thinges which can do no good? ⁴ Surely thou hast cast of feare, and restrainest prayer before God. ⁵ For thy mouth setteth forth thyne owne iniquitie, seeing thou hast chosen the tongue of the craftie. ⁶ Thyne owne mouth condempneth thee, and not I: yea, thyne owne lippes shape an aunswere against thee. ⁷ Art thou the first man that euer was borne? or wast thou made before the hils? ⁸ Hast thou heard the secret counsell of God? and doest thou restraine wysdome to thee? ⁹ What knowest thou, that we knowe not? And what vnderstandest thou, but we can the same? ¹⁰ With vs are both olde and aged men, yea such as haue liued longer then thy father.

Bible Verse Review
  from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge

the secret: Job 11:6, Deuteronomy 29:29, Psalms 25:14, Proverbs 3:32, Jeremiah 23:18, Amos 3:7, Matthew 11:25, Matthew 13:11, Matthew 13:35, John 15:15, Romans 11:34, Romans 16:25, Romans 16:26, 1 Corinthians 2:9-11, 1 Corinthians 2:16

thou restrain: Job 12:2, Job 13:5, Job 13:6

Reciprocal: Job 5:1 - and to which Job 13:2 - General Job 15:11 - is there Job 26:3 - counselled Job 29:4 - the secret Job 32:13 - We Proverbs 8:25 - General Ezekiel 28:3 - no secret

Cross-References

Genesis 15:2
And Abram sayde: Lorde God what wylt thou geue me when I go chyldelesse, the chylde of the stewardship of my house is this Eleazer of Damasco?

Genesis 15:4
And beholde, the worde of the Lorde came vnto hym, saying, he shall not be thine heire: but one that shall come out of thine own bowels shalbe thine heire.

Genesis 15:9
He aunswered vnto hym: Take an Heyfer of three yere olde, & a she Goate of three yere olde, and a three yere olde Ramme, a turtle Doue also, & a young Pigeon.

Genesis 15:10
He toke therefore all these vnto hym, and deuided them in the middes, and layde euery peece one ouer agaynst another: but the birdes deuided he not.

Genesis 15:13
And he sayde vnto Abram: Knowe this of a suertie, that thy seede shalbe a straunger in a lande that is not theirs, and shall serue them, and they shall entreate them euyll foure hundreth yeres.

Genesis 15:14
But the nation whom they shall serue wyll I iudge: and afterward shall they come out with great substaunce.

Genesis 15:17
And so it was, that when the sonne went downe, and it was twylyght, beholde a smokyng furnesse and a fire brande goyng betweene the said peeces.

2 Kings 20:8
And Hezekia sayde vnto Isai: What shalbe the signe that the Lorde will heale me, and that I shal go vp into the house of the Lorde the thirde day?

Psalms 86:17
Shewe some good token of thy fauour towardes me, that they whiche hate me may see it and be ashamed: because thou God hast helped me, and comforted me.

Isaiah 7:11
Require to thy selfe a token of the Lorde thy God, whether it be towarde the depth beneath, or toward the height aboue.

Gill's Notes on the Bible

Hast thou heard the secret of God?.... Or, "in the secret of God" a, in his cabinet council, what was said and done there? hast thou stood in the council of God? hast thou been one of his privy council, or counsellors, and been let into all the secrets of God, of his purposes and providence, and into the reasons of all his administrations, that thou talkest so freely, and boldly, and confidently as thou dost? Indeed Christ, the son of God, was the Angel of the great council; the counsel of peace was between him and his Father; yea, he was in his bosom, and privy to all his thoughts, designs, and decrees, and knew everything, what would be, and the reasons thereof; as well as the nature of his Father, his perfections, mind, and will, which he has declared: but could Job pretend to this, or anything like it? no, surely. Indeed there are some secrets of God which he makes known to his people, and no doubt, in some measure, Job was acquainted with them; such as the secrets of God's love, and of the covenant of his grace, which are with them that fear him; and such an one Job was, and with whom, in times past at least, the secret of God was, even his everlasting love in the open manifestation of it to him; which is a secret in the heart of God, till revealed and shed abroad in the hearts of his people; and so the "mysteries" of God, as some render the word, the doctrines of the Gospel, the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, the knowledge of them, is given to the sons of men; Job was acquainted with them, with the incarnation of Christ, redemption by him, and the resurrection of the dead; the secrets of Providence, though they may not always be known now, they will be hereafter; yea, God does nothing but he reveals his secrets to his servants the prophets Amos 3:7, as he did to Abraham his friend; and as for the purposes of God, which are the secret things that belong to him, and can never be known unless revealed, and when fulfilled, even those, such as relate to the election of men, their redemption by Christ, and the effectual calling, are made known by God's saving and calling them according to them:

and dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? not keep it to himself without communicating it to others, which to do is to imprison the truth, and detain it in unrighteousness; as men have freely received, they should freely give; but he arrogated and ascribed wisdom to himself, monopolized it, and would allow no man to have any share of it but himself; he reckoned so highly of himself, as if he was the only wise man in the world; thus what he charged his friends with Eliphaz retorts upon himself, Job 12:2; as he does his own words in

Job 15:9.

a בסוד אלוה "in secreto Dei", Pagninus, Montanus, Cocceius. Schultens.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

Hast thou heard the secret of God? - literally, “in the secret of God hast thou heard” - הסוד hasôd. The word rendered “secret” (סוד sôd) means properly a “couch” or “cushion,” on which one reclines - whether for sleep or at a table, or as a divan. Hence, it means a divan, or circle of persons sitting together for familiar conversation, Jeremiah 6:11; Jeremiah 15:17; or of judges, counsellors, or advisers for consultation, as the word “divan” is now used in Oriental countries; Psalms 89:7; Jeremiah 33:18. Then it means any consultation, counsel, familiar conversation, or intimacy; Psalms 55:14; Proverbs 15:22. Here God is represented in Oriental language as seated in a “divan,” or council of state: there is deliberation about the concerns of his government; important questions are agitated and decided; and Eliphaz asks of Job whether he had been admitted to that council, and had heard those deliberations; and whether, if he had not, he was qualified to pronounce as he had done, on the plans and purposes of the Almighty.

And dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? - Having obtained the secret of that council, art thou now keeping it wholly to thyself - as a prime minister might be supposed to keep the purposes resolved on in the divan? “Hast thou listened in the council of yahweh, and dost thou now reserve all wisdom to thyself?”

Clarke's Notes on the Bible

Verse Job 15:8. Hast thou heard the secret of God? — "Hast thou hearkened in God's council?" Wert thou one of the celestial cabinet, when God said, Let US make man in OUR image, and in OUR likeness?

Dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? — Dost thou wish us to understand that God's counsels were revealed to none but thyself? And dost thou desire that we should give implicit credence to whatsoever thou art pleased to speak? These are all strong sarcastic questions, and apparently uttered with great contempt.