Yosua 17:16

Bahasa Indonesia Sehari-hari

Kemudian berkatalah bani Yusuf: "Pegunungan itu tidak cukup bagi kami, dan semua orang Kanaan yang diam di dataran itu mempunyai kereta besi, baik yang diam di Bet-Sean dengan segala anak kotanya maupun yang diam di lembah Yizreel."

Parallel Translations

Alkitab Terjemahan Baru
Kemudian berkatalah bani Yusuf: "Pegunungan itu tidak cukup bagi kami, dan semua orang Kanaan yang diam di dataran itu mempunyai kereta besi, baik yang diam di Bet-Sean dengan segala anak kotanya maupun yang diam di lembah Yizreel."

Alkitab Terjemahan Lama
Maka kata bani Yusuf: Tiada terdapat lagi tanah pegunungan bagi kami, maka segala orang Kanani yang duduk di padang itu ada menaruh rata besi, baik yang duduk dalam Bait-Sean dan daerahnya baik yang duduk di padang Yizreil.

Contextual Overview

¹⁴ And the children of Ioseph spake vnto Iosuah, saying: Why hast thou geue me but one lotte and one portion to inherite, seyng I am a great people, and forasmuche as the Lorde hath blessed me hytherto? ¹⁵ And Iosuah auswered them: If thou be much people, then get thee vp to the wood [countrey] and prepare for thy selfe there in the lande of the Pherezites and of the Giauntes, yf mount Ephraim be to narowe for thee. ¹⁶ And the children of Ioseph sayd, The hill is not ynough for vs: And all ye Chanaanites that dwel in the lowe countrey haue charettes of iron, and so haue they that inhabite Bethlean & the townes of the same, and they also that dwell in the valley of Iezreel. ¹⁷ And Iasuah sayde vnto the house of Ioseph, Ephraim, & Manasses: Ye be much people, and haue great power, and shall not therfore haue one lotte. ¹⁸ Therfore the hyll shalbe yours, and ye shall cut downe the wood that is in it: and the endes of it shalbe yours, yf ye cast out the Chananaites which haue iron charettes, and are very strong.

Bible Verse Review
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chariots: Joshua 17:18, Judges 1:19, Judges 4:3

Bethshean: Joshua 17:11, 1 Kings 4:12

Jezreel: Joshua 19:18, Judges 6:33, 1 Kings 4:12, 1 Kings 18:46, 1 Kings 21:1, 1 Kings 21:23, 2 Kings 9:10, 2 Kings 9:37, Hosea 1:4, Hosea 1:5

Reciprocal: Exodus 14:7 - General Deuteronomy 7:17 - These nations 1 Kings 9:21 - not Psalms 78:9 - The children

Cross-References

Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God sayde vnto them: be fruitefull, & multiplie, and replenishe the earth, & subdue it, and haue dominion of the fisshe of the sea, and foule of the ayre, & of euery lyuing thing that moueth vpon the earth.

Genesis 12:2
And I will make of thee a great people, and wyll blesse thee, and make thy name great, that thou shalt be [euen] a blessyng.

Genesis 17:6
I wyll make thee exceedyng fruitefull, and wyll make nations of thee, yea and kynges shall spryng out of thee.

Genesis 17:10
This is my couenaunt which ye shall kepe betweene me & you, and thy seede after thee: euery man chylde among you shalbe circumcised.

Genesis 17:14
And the vncircumcised manchylde, in whose fleshe the foreskyn is not circumcised, that soule shalbe cut of from his people, because he hath broken my couenaunt.

Genesis 17:26
The selfe same day was Abraham circumcised and Ismael his sonne.

Genesis 24:60
And they blessed Rebecca, and sayde vnto her: thou art our sister, growe into thousande thousandes, and thy seede possesse the gate of his enemies.

Genesis 35:11
And God sayd vnto him: I am God almightie, be fruitefull and multiplie: a nation, and a multitude of nations shall spring of thee, yea and kinges shall come out of thy loynes.

Isaiah 49:23
For kynges shalbe thy nursyng fathers, and queenes shalbe thy nursyng mothers: They shall fall before thee with their faces flat vpon the earth, & lick vp the dust of thy feete: that thou mayest knowe howe that I am the Lorde, and that who so putteth their trust in me shall not be confounded.

Romans 9:9
For this is a worde of promise: About this tyme wyll I come, and Sara shall haue a sonne.

Gill's Notes on the Bible

And the children of Joseph said, the hill is not enough for us,.... Meaning either Mount Ephraim, and all included in it; or it may be rather the wood country on the hills and mountains they were bid to go up to; signifying, that if they could gain that out of the hands of the Perizzites and giants, and clear it of the wood, and make it habitable, even that would not be sufficient for them; or that hill and mountain cannot be "found by us" r or obtained and possessed by us; we are not able to get it into our hands; there being a valley between us and that:

and all the Canaanites that dwell in the land of the valley have chariots of iron; not chariots made of iron, but chariots with iron scythes fastened to the sides, or axle trees of them, which when driven with great force and fury, would cut down the infantry in battle, as grass is cut down with scythes, see Judges 4:2;

[both they] who [are] of Bethshean and her towns, and [they] who [are] of the valley of Jezreel; both which belonged to the tribe of Manasseh, or were on the borders of it, though as yet they had not got possession, see Joshua 17:11; and this circumstance seems to favour the notion, that tribe of Manasseh were at least chiefly concerned in this address.

r לא ימצא לנו "non invenietur nobis", Montanus; "non possumus montem istum assequi", Tigurine version; "non obtinebitur a nobis", Masius.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

The possession by the Canaanites of chariots strengthened and tipped with iron, such as were used by the Egyptians Exodus 14:7, is named here by the children of Joseph as a reason why they could not possess themselves of the plains. “The valley of Jezreel” is the broad low valley which sweeps from “Zerin” between the mountains of Gilboa and the range of little Hermon eastward down to the Jordan. It was most likely in this valley that the host of the Midianites was encamped, when attacked by Gideon Judges 7:1, Judges 7:8. The great plain of Jezreel, called the plain of Esdraelon (Esdrelom, Judith 1:8), extends from Carmel on the west to the hills of Gilboa, little Hermon, and Tabor on the east, a distance of full sixteen miles; and its breadth between the rocky mass of southern Palestine and the bolder mountains of Galilee on the north, is about twelve miles. Its position as well as its open area make it the natural battlefield of Palestine.

Clarke's Notes on the Bible

Verse Joshua 17:16. The hill is not enough for us — The mountain of Gilboa being that which had fallen to them by lot.

Chariots of iron — We cannot possess the plain country, because that is occupied by the Canaanites; and we cannot conquer them, because they have chariots of iron, that is, very strong chariots, and armed with scythes, as is generally supposed.